Posted by John Tchoe on July 24, 19101 at 11:49:36:

In Reply to: Luck and insects posted by Noctillucent on July 19, 19101 at 23:21:09:

What about when someone wins the lottery? Sure, the odds are incredible that any one set of numbers will come up, but does it have any meaning? Does it imply some sort of intent?

It's just plain luck.

Why can we accept that, but not accept that the world as we see it today came out of blind chance?

It may be that there is something behind all that we see, but if so, there's nothing besides wanting to see it to back it up.

I for one do not suppose that my wishes have any direct effect on the nature of the universe, so when I think about such things as human consciousness and the origins of the universe, keep my wishes out of it.

As for your insect example, correct me if I'm wrong, but now we're talking about creationism, aren't we? How do you know that they aren't spelling out a bunch of things in other languages which haven't been invented yet? People used to think that the face on mars meant something, that an intelligent race had built a monument there, until we took a closer look and found out that it was just a natural structure which didn't resemble a face at all at higher resolutions.

Besides, our brains are hard wired to seek faces in our visual perception. They've proven it with experiements where babies are drawn to shapes which resemble human faces than to otherwise similar shapes. Don't you think it's reasonable to suppose that whatever spiritual God you think is out there is just this, taken to a higher level?

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• Re: 3 5 6 13 24 41 Noctillucent 22:14:52 7/25/101 (11)
  • Meaningful vs. favorable. John Tchoe 22:09:29 7/26/101 (10)
    • Re: Meaningful vs. favorable. Noctillucent 00:04:47 7/27/101 (9)
      • Vroom, vroom. John Tchoe 11:59:03 7/27/101 (8)
        • Re: Vroom, vroom. jermaih johnston 13:54:48 2/26/103 (0)
        • Re: Vroom, vroom. Noctillucent 16:25:38 7/28/101 (6)
          • What makes the parts go vroom? Karma Police 23:22:31 7/28/101 (5)
            • Ah. John Tchoe 16:15:36 8/01/101 (4)
              • Re: Ah. Noct 12:49:46 8/03/101 (3)
                • A boatload of nonsense. John Tchoe 17:28:15 8/04/101 (2)
                  • Re: A boatload of nonsense. Noct 11:04:17 8/06/101 (1)
                    • Does one need to be a mechanic to be a good driver? John Tchoe 17:18:36 8/15/101 (0)

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