Posted by Osama on May 06, 19103 at 18:59:50:
In Reply to: Re: You think this place is liberal? Just wait until you visit Canada. posted by Ian Berg on May 09, 1999 at 22:14:38:
:
: Just to follow up, the only federal small-c
: conservative party in Canada is on track to
: dissolve itself before the end of next year.
: The Reform Party, Canada's Official Opposition
: to the Liberal government, is debating its very
: future. http://www.reform.ca
: A campaign called the United Alternative
: http://www.unitedalt.org spearheaded by the
: Reform Party's leader Preston Manning and his
: devoted followers is encouraging all Reformers
: this month (May, 1999) to endorse by a party-wide
: referendum a motion to hold a convention later
: this year or next spring to create a new party.
: Another referendum to accept or reject the
: principles of the new party and dissolve the
: Reform Party would be held soon after.
: If this new party went ahead, it would probably
: ignore the more controversial stands of the
: Reform Party like our proposals to scrap Canada's
: Official Multiculturalism and Official Bilingualsim
: Acts, Ministry of Canadian Heritage, and making
: our Senate elected, effective, and with equal
: representation from the provinces (like the 2
: elected American Senators per state). The new
: party would still be committed to responsible
: fiscal spending but I think it would still
: protect government-owned "crown corporations".
: On socialized health care the Reform Party
: supported mixing public and privately services,
: with "essential services" deemed freely
: accessible to all. A new United Alternative
: based party will be hard-pressed to resist
: calls for supporting government control of
: health care and, as a sop to conservatives,
: devolve more power from the federal to the
: provincial level.
: Overall, your point about Canada as a
: Valhalla for liberals is absolutely correct.
: Many conservatives left and right are pointing
: to the United Alternative as a means of
: uniting Progressive Conservatives and
: Reformers to defeat the Liberals and bring back
: a conservative government. Unfortunately the
: rhetoric coming out of the United Alternative
: reminds me of the vague, phoney promises we
: heard from Brian Mulroney in the 1984 election
: which he proceeded to win the second-greatest
: majority government in Canadian history. But
: he fall flat within a few years, scandal after
: big spending scandal dogged him, taxes and
: spending rose, he failed
: twice to solve Quebec separatism and his party
: was rejected quite handily in 1993 electing
: just two seats.
: Conservatism is limping in Canada like
: a wounded, sick dog. The gr is most
: definitely greener on the southern side
: of the fence and I'll probably move down
: to the States within five years.
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