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Posted by Ian Berg on May 09, 1999 at 22:14:38:

In Reply to: You think this place is liberal? Just wait until you visit Canada. posted by Rob on February 10, 1999 at 14:46:42:


Just to follow up, the only federal small-c
conservative party in Canada is on track to
dissolve itself before the end of next year.
The Reform Party, Canada's Official Opposition
to the Liberal government, is debating its very
future. http://www.reform.ca

A campaign called the United Alternative
http://www.unitedalt.org spearheaded by the
Reform Party's leader Preston Manning and his
devoted followers is encouraging all Reformers
this month (May, 1999) to endorse by a party-wide
referendum a motion to hold a convention later
this year or next spring to create a new party.
Another referendum to accept or reject the
principles of the new party and dissolve the
Reform Party would be held soon after.

If this new party went ahead, it would probably
ignore the more controversial stands of the
Reform Party like our proposals to scrap Canada's
Official Multiculturalism and Official Bilingualsim
Acts, Ministry of Canadian Heritage, and making
our Senate elected, effective, and with equal
representation from the provinces (like the 2
elected American Senators per state). The new
party would still be committed to responsible
fiscal spending but I think it would still
protect government-owned "crown corporations".
On socialized health care the Reform Party
supported mixing public and privately services,
with "essential services" deemed freely
accessible to all. A new United Alternative
based party will be hard-pressed to resist
calls for supporting government control of
health care and, as a sop to conservatives,
devolve more power from the federal to the
provincial level.

Overall, your point about Canada as a
Valhalla for liberals is absolutely correct.
Many conservatives left and right are pointing
to the United Alternative as a means of
uniting Progressive Conservatives and
Reformers to defeat the Liberals and bring back
a conservative government. Unfortunately the
rhetoric coming out of the United Alternative
reminds me of the vague, phoney promises we
heard from Brian Mulroney in the 1984 election
which he proceeded to win the second-greatest
majority government in Canadian history. But
he fall flat within a few years, scandal after
big spending scandal dogged him, taxes and
spending rose, he failed
twice to solve Quebec separatism and his party
was rejected quite handily in 1993 electing
just two seats.

Conservatism is limping in Canada like
a wounded, sick dog. The gr is most
definitely greener on the southern side
of the fence and I'll probably move down
to the States within five years.




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