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Posted by Jason on November 03, 19100 at 11:35:49:

In Reply to: Re: free will and determinism posted by Hobbes on April 10, 19100 at 22:40:58:

: cYou have to be the dumbest person I have ever
: had the disfortune to meet on the internet. If
: free will was such a simple idea then it wouldn't
: be a complex philosophical issue would it?
: Well considering that the deterministic argument
: is very convincing I shall try and explain why I am
: so astounded by your stupidity. If we take the view
: proposed by you then any and all actions, such as moving
: a limb, are not at our disposal and are infact only
: the actions of a supernatural being. So you have to
: bite the bullet on that one and say you believe in God;
: which in itself is another HUGE topic. Yet you seem to
: not only be a Determinist but a Hard core Determinist.
: Where soft Determinism gives rise for some sense of freedom,
: such as freedom of thought and emotion( Which by the way shows soft determinism and hard to be falde),
: hard core Determinism allows us no room to move and infact looks allot like the
: Theory of Design, which again supports A God. Moving allong children
: we will introduce a radical idea that may break your fragile
: little minds. A very smart man once theorized that
: it is only the way in which we view our world which gives us cause for
: a immediate connection between two events. Ex:
: Billards, you hit the cue, the cue hits the target, target rolls into holl,
: sound heard; now kiddies this is the fun part! Now show me
: where there is a necessary connection that makes the target ball roll after the cue hits it?
: Well guess what there is none, Oh and for you Physics students who say by the laws
: of thermodynamics predict the movement by the formula
: (m1)(v1)+(m2)(v2)=(m1)(v3)+(m2)(v4) (This is the basic formula for collisons)
: allthough in the laws of nature this is true you aren't reading my question correctly,
: where is the NECESSARY connection that simply states that the energy put into the system
: is equal to the energy out it does not prove that the
: target ball has to move. This by the way negates the big bang by depicting each
: event as a singulr event which gives rise to free will but in the end not the free will we want
: blah I'm bored but there you go hope that enlightens you

:
: : I doubt that free will exists, and I think the only reason why peolpe hold on to this thought is that they feel very small if they agree to determinism of every human action.





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