Posted by lisa furbag on March 26, 19103 at 10:31:31:

In Reply to: Re: free will and determinism posted by Aur'Dum on February 12, 19101 at 22:56:55:

: : what do the readers of this page think of free will and determinism ?????
: : Do we have any free will or can we only be whom we are ???

: I'm not an enlish speaker and not a philosopher, but I am interested in the idea of Determinism versus Free Will. In my opinion I strongly believe in absolute cause and effect law. I thaught the first time of this universe (As in Big Bang theory) when the whole m of this universe up and expands with velocity closest to of light it has determined how and what will become a star how a star create planet and how planet create life form
: and we as life forms are only a "simple" result of appropriate amout of gases such as water steam, carbon dioxide and methane and situated in suitable temerature. Then the life world begins. And our mental complexity are result our society, our society is formed under our biological limits, our biological limits are result of our planet environment, our planet environment is a result of
: how far from the star and ingredient that the star give to our planet. How far our planet is from the star is depended on how big is the star and how hard it can explode. These are depended on how the Big Bang Created our star will effect how we are living today.
: Sounds hard to believe and hard to understand my poor grammar. There is to way to proof of Determinsm is Ultimate Truth are first, According to the Big Bang theory, our universe is started by the whole m of this universe explodes and extend their area. I may only one who think of the end of universe and I called the Perfect Big Bang theory (if you know someone talk about the following please mail me.) According to the scientific proof of black hole (How they proof it I don't know well) the black hole is a very mive spent star that had never break up. Its m have strong gravity and pulled every thing that is closer than its event horizon. The object which is pulled by black hole will go to the black hole center and unite to the black hole and it would be a biggest density matter called singularity (has no neucleas no orbital electron on know photon or electromagnetic presense) The singularity matter have only one presense, its graavity. After object united with black hole to be a singularity the black hole will has more m it will has more gravity and more density. While its gravity increases it event horizon would expand and the more object would be captured. After the sollar system was devoured by its own star black hole it will unite with the black hole of neighbor solar system and it will gain more gravity to capture every thing in our galaxy and finally our universe. After that last black hole contain our whole universe it will be athe most density matter in the universe and has the greatest gravity force of the universe but its gravity cannot stand it density then the whole m begin to explode and try to escape from these black hole again. (Big Bang again) Sorry to waste your time, But at this point one way we can be sure of determinism by the beginning of the universe is look at previuos or next universe, it will created a same thing in this universe such as the same number of star the same planet called earth and the same person called Aur'Dum and the same event such as arguing this subject. This way is no way to prove. The second way is, There must be someone who is the legendary mystic knows every ultimate truth and know the strict liability of absolute cause and effect law and can predict every thing in the world what event will haapen next and why it would haapen. But today, noone presented as the greatest seer, oracle or mystic that can forecast every event such as how I or you or he will act after the seer saaid. To this point I have to think about Free Will in stead of Determinism. Because in scientific method, if two theories that can explain one presense. The simpler theory is the one would be used. When you try to explain why your friend did something, can someone explain, because when he was born he have a combination of genes and DNA that make him feel like this today. I thought noone will talk like that (because my poor english), But we always say. Because he decided to do that.
: thanks i am saying can you say what if the big bang didn't occur you don't know that do you? bye

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