Posted by Hobbes on April 10, 19100 at 22:40:58:
In Reply to: Re: free will and determinism posted by Jenny on April 02, 19100 at 03:34:50:
cYou have to be the dumbest person I have ever
had the disfortune to meet on the internet. If
free will was such a simple idea then it wouldn't
be a complex philosophical issue would it?
Well considering that the deterministic argument
is very convincing I shall try and explain why I am
so astounded by your stupidity. If we take the view
proposed by you then any and all actions, such as moving
a limb, are not at our disposal and are infact only
the actions of a supernatural being. So you have to
bite the bullet on that one and say you believe in God;
which in itself is another HUGE topic. Yet you seem to
not only be a Determinist but a Hard core Determinist.
Where soft Determinism gives rise for some sense of freedom,
such as freedom of thought and emotion( Which by the way shows soft determinism and hard to be falde),
hard core Determinism allows us no room to move and infact looks allot like the
Theory of Design, which again supports A God. Moving allong children
we will introduce a radical idea that may break your fragile
little minds. A very smart man once theorized that
it is only the way in which we view our world which gives us cause for
a immediate connection between two events. Ex:
Billards, you hit the cue, the cue hits the target, target rolls into holl,
sound heard; now kiddies this is the fun part! Now show me
where there is a necessary connection that makes the target ball roll after the cue hits it?
Well guess what there is none, Oh and for you Physics students who say by the laws
of thermodynamics predict the movement by the formula
(m1)(v1)+(m2)(v2)=(m1)(v3)+(m2)(v4) (This is the basic formula for collisons)
allthough in the laws of nature this is true you aren't reading my question correctly,
where is the NECESSARY connection that simply states that the energy put into the system
is equal to the energy out it does not prove that the
target ball has to move. This by the way negates the big bang by depicting each
event as a singulr event which gives rise to free will but in the end not the free will we want
blah I'm bored but there you go hope that enlightens you
: I doubt that free will exists, and I think the only reason why peolpe hold on to this thought is that they feel very small if they agree to determinism of every human action.
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